Electropop act St. Lucia called in ahead of kicking off their US headline tour and the release of their highly-anticipated LP Utopia. The husband/wife duo first made a splash with their Billboard-charting debut album, When The Night. Since then, they've received media praise from PAPER, FLOOD, Under the Radar, LadyGunn, and Rolling Stone and made numerous late-night TV appearances on Kimmel, Fallon, and Seth Meyers!
Brendan spoke with Jean of St. Lucia about crafting Utopia, bringing the kids on tour, NFTs in the music industry, the evolution of TikTok, and more on the latest episode of Music You're Missing!
You can listen to our favorite tracks from Utopia streaming now on the Music You're Missing Spotify playlist!
Music You're Missing is an artist interview style music podcast and Spotify playlist curated by Brendan Jeannetti. For more information, visit www.musicyouremissing.org
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Electropop act St. Lucia called in ahead of kicking off their US headline tour and the release of their highly-anticipated LP Utopia. The husband/wife duo first made a splash with their Billboard-charting debut album, When The Night. Since then, they've received media praise from PAPER, FLOOD, Under the Radar, LadyGunn, and Rolling Stone and made numerous late-night TV appearances on Kimmel, Fallon, and Seth Meyers! Brendan spoke with Jean of St. Lucia about crafting Utopia, bringing the kids on tour, NFTs in the music industry, the evolution of TikTok, and more on the latest episode of Music You're Missing! You can listen to our favorite tracks from Utopia streaming now on the Music You're Missing Spotify playlist! Music You're Missing is an artist interview style music podcast and Spotify playlist curated by Brendan Jeannetti. For more information, visit www.musicyouremissing.org Follow St. Lucia: www.stlucianewyork.com/
Brendan Jeannetti (00:00):
You're listening to music You're Missing. My name is Brendan Jenetti and today we are joined with St. Lucia after their breakout tracks dancing on Glass and Elevate catapulted their career in music. John and Patty of St. Lucia have had a very consistent and lengthy career that I have been following since the very beginning. We are about to speak with them at such an interesting time because they are gearing up for the release of their first full length album in four years. The record is called Utopia and they're also kicking off the Utopia Tour on October 6th in Virginia. And I'm just really excited to talk to them about essentially reentering the craziest part of the music industry, which is touring. And, you know, rolling out your record before I get John of St. Lucia on the line. You've listened to podcast before you know the drill.
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St. Lucia (01:51):
I'm good Brendan. Thanks. Thanks for asking. I appreciate
Brendan Jeannetti (01:53):
It. Yeah, of course. I mean, I am a little bit surprised to hear you're good because I know you've got some stuff coming out. You're, you're days away from El releasing your fourth studio album, Utopia Kicking off the Utopia Tour soon. How are you, how are you actually doing <laugh>?
St. Lucia (02:09):
Whew, man. I mean it's multifaceted. I'm truly, I'm truly doing good, you know, but like, um, you know, Patty and I have two kids, Like, we have a almost five year old and almost two year old and they're both coming on tour with us. And we're currently Nashville, uh, doing musical rehearsals for the, for the tour. And you know, the last time we, we did a big tour, we had just one, we had Indian, he was like nine months old. And it's very different having a nine month old to having two kids that could fully run around and need a lot of attention. Um, so that's, that's, that's the toughest thing to navigate right now. But we're doing it. We we're fortunate to have a really, really great tour. Any, her name is Paige and she's super awesome, super helpful. Um, yeah, but we're good, you know, I mean it's like, it's, it's the fourth album we've released, so I've done this before.
I understand how it goes. Um, you know, and we are very, we feel really great about the record. Like the, I think, I feel like I would almost say this about every record would be released, but this feels in a way like our best record. You know, maybe it's just because it feels very relevant to us right now. Um, all the songs feel really good to play live. Um, the band is feeling better than ever. We have like a really cool, exciting show that we're putting together. This feels exciting to get on the road again, cuz I feel like it's at the shows that St Music really comes to life, you know? And I can't wait for people to hear like the new songs in that context.
Brendan Jeannetti (03:34):
Yeah, of course. So you mentioned the rehearsals today. What, what is, Walk me through a rehearsal. What does that consist of? Are you, are you breaking out choreo or are you just making sure the band kind of knows how to play the new stuff?
St. Lucia (03:45):
It's like a, I mean, not really choreography. I mean it's very, you know, we we're very much like, we're like a band, you know what I mean? Like, we're like five piece, sometimes we're four piece, like when Patty can't make it cuz we have, we have kids and we live in Germany, but, um, you know, we're five piece. And so we're just like, you know, we are all playing the parts and you know, I'm very blessed to be surrounded by some really great musicians. So we're just really doing it like old school style, you know, like proper analog sense pro, you know. Um, just like we really, you know, trying to basically bring the studio to the stage, you know, as much as possible. Um, but then, you know, just figuring out like cool new different parts and interludes and things that might surprise people and slightly different versions of songs. Um, so we're not just playing the songs verbatim, you know, but, uh, in terms of like how the rehearsals go, like it's normally the, you know, it takes like a full day for us normally to set up just to set up. Uh, cause we have so much stuff, you know, we have like, I'm trying to think how many, like, since we have like one, two,
Brendan Jeannetti (04:45):
So you're setting up the entire, like your entire set is set up for rehearsal, You're doing it a hundred percent.
St. Lucia (04:51):
Yeah, a hundred percent. And we, we have to, you know, we do using any errors, we're doing the whole thing because otherwise you just can't tell what it really sounds like, you know? And like when you're on stage, you're using in your monitors and like, that's the whole, that's just what the whole world is based on. Like, we've just learned. I mean, we could definitely do it cheaper, but I, it it pays to do it this way because everyone's just like working well, it's already working hard. And to be able to actually hear what you're doing, what everyone else is doing, like pays dividends in the end. Um, yeah. And we're just, you know, we're feeling things. We're like, you know, sometimes like a version of a song's been working for a while, but you feel like everyone's heard it nice, you've gotta change it up a little bit. And, um, so it's just like trying to be aware, trying to be attuned to each other, musically to what each other's feeling. Like speaking your mind, like trusting the people around you to speak their minds and, um, it's a family, you know. It's like any, any good relationship, any family. I think communication is important. So big part of it is communication.
Brendan Jeannetti (05:46):
Are there any stops that you have lined up that you're like super excited for? Are we playing any new rooms?
St. Lucia (05:51):
Yeah. Um, we've been to on a, on a free day, but never played Santa Fe and we're playing Meow Wolf in Santa Fe, which I'm really excited about cause I've heard a lot about it. I love Santa Fe as a, as a city. I just, I mean it's just a beautiful, like all the Adobe buildings, um, great food as well. Um, yeah, very excited about that. Um, always excited to play New York, you know, in New York. Always feels like a hometown show to us. We've never played Brooklyn Steel, even though we've played almost most of the venues in New York now. We've never played like Madison Square Garden or anything, but like very excited to play Brooklyn Steel cause it's a great room. Sounds great. Um, yeah, it just feels really good and exciting to be back on the road, honestly.
Brendan Jeannetti (06:32):
I bet. Especially after, you know, the whole covid situation. Is this your first full length tour since Covid?
St. Lucia (06:39):
Yeah, I mean, this is our first proper tour since 2018 actually. Um, we did like, we did an acoustic tour in, I think it was May, 2019, but this is our first tour with like, our full setup. Um, you know, and everything's like way more expensive now. Like everything, the prices are inflated like gas, like everything. So it feels like everyone else but us is like pairing down their setups. Like not using guitar anymore, like using, you know, amps and stuff, whatever. We just like, I don't know man, I just believe in quality. I think that like if you, you know, if you've gotta do less but do better, like, I think it's a better art to go than just like cluttering stuff with just yeah, just, I think as a musician it just feels good to know you can trust the sound coming out of your instruments, you know, And so that's where, that's sort of, we're investing our money right now.
Brendan Jeannetti (07:27):
Hey, on a personal level, I I'm going through the process of booking a show, like I'm,
St. Lucia (07:31):
Oh dude, awesome. That
Brendan Jeannetti (07:32):
Is like a really large conversation that we're having a lot is, you know, quality over quantity is like, do wanna get more on track artists or we want full bands and you know, I'm I I'm a musical lover, of course I wanna, I wanna have everyone have that full music experience. So that is super helpful to hear.
St. Lucia (07:48):
Yeah, I mean, you know, there was this, there's this story of like the original Woodstock and how they, um, how basically, you know, it go, it goes totally counter what like the Woodstock in 99 was like, but the original Woodstock basically at one point they had a choice to either um, go and like really have like a good gate door situation and not let everyone in or like really prop up the sound system and make the sound system great. And they chose to do the sound system and just said everyone in. So they ended up making way less money, but it just became legendary because it was just so, you know, the experience of the show was so amazing and the whole thing, you know, so like, I think there's many stories like that where it's, you know, it might, you know, if you just think of the, the financial monetary aspect like can be scary, but I think investing in that stuff pays in the long run.
Brendan Jeannetti (08:42):
Super interesting. I saw that you posted some little snippets of what your set design's gonna look like. What can you tell, I'm super stoked. I'm seeing you in the Boston show, your second show on tour, What can I expect?
St. Lucia (08:53):
Um, so, you know, we, we always have, we, we put a lot of focus on the production always. Um, and this time is no different. I mean it's, you know, we, I feel like we've, we've worked with this really cool, I don't feel like I know <laugh> of course, that we, um, we've worked with this really great, um, illustrator slash graphical designers, His name's Ryan Miller, his Instagram handle is at its ride dog, ride dog. Um, and he's really been amazing at helping us craft the visual world for this record. And the visual world for us has always mega important. Like all of our, all of our album covers have always like, been like really, you know, almost, almost as hard to make as the album itself and also like expensive and stuff. And he's just been amazing at helping put our ideas into like the visual world.
And for me, what's so important about that is, at least from my experience, when I look at a record cover, that in massively informs how I imagine the album in my mind. You know, cuz like to me, when I hear music, I see visuals at the same time. And the, the look of the album cover needs for me needs to be indicative of what is inside it, you know? So to get onto the production, like the production's definitely gonna be based around the, the album cover and the artwork in general, but just kind of expanding on that and trying to bring people into this new world of utopia.
Brendan Jeannetti (10:15):
Wow. Yeah, I mean, I feel like with, with your music, especially as a fan, it really is more than music. You, you obviously capture a lot of like, deep themes, especially on utopia. So like,
St. Lucia (10:26):
I appreciate that
Brendan Jeannetti (10:27):
Man. What comes first for you? Like, do you have your kind of idea and vision, or do you craft what you think is the sound of a new record first?
St. Lucia (10:36):
Uh, man, um, it's, it's kind of like every time I do it, I have to relearn the whole thing.
Brendan Jeannetti (10:43):
St. Lucia (10:43):
So it's like I start from this place of you just kind of like writing songs. And in the beginning the weird thing is like, I'll be really excited about some ideas, some new ideas that I have. Um, but it often those early ideas won't stand the test of time and I'll be really excited about them. But when I play them to other people, they're kinda like, yeah, it's okay. And then like, it's kind of like going through this like pro process of, it's almost like lifting weights. It's like you do it and you kind of like break the strands of your muscles and then you just, you hurt, you know? So you constantly learning and getting stronger and better and better because you make a record, you go on tour and you kind of get out of that mindset of being in the studio and making a record and then you have to come back and sort of, you know, and I, I come from a very like, untheoretical standpoint, even though like I've studied music theory and stuff, but at some point I just felt like thinking of the theory was holding me back and keeping me stuck.
So I just come from a very intuitive standpoint. And so to me it's just kind of like feeling my way to the new sound and the new way that things have to be. Um, and that just takes a lot of experimentation and going back and forth and going down a lot of different like, musical avenues, you know, like for this record, there's been at least like three or four totally different almost albums that we could have made. Like, there, there was one that we finished actually before we made Utopia that's gonna come out, um, next year hopefully. But then there was like a kind of Americana record and there was like, uh, there's like, there's like a more electronic kind of, so it's always these different avenues, but then the album itself almost always ends up being a combination of all those different directions with like, the best parts of them and the ones that aren't fully that direction that have bits of the other kind of worlds in it. Um, so that's, I mean, it's a, it's, I could keep talking about it, but it's like, it's, it's a long, it's a long process for a reason. It just, you know, it, to me, I just really even following my intuition, not trying to just rehash a formula, you know, and just trying to grow as an artist and as a band and, um, just not feed people the same thing over and over.
Yeah. You know, and I think there's an element of that that's not bad, you know, I think it's like sometimes like, you know, I'll be going, you know, all these crazy different directions and then one day I'll just come in and I'll be like, you know what, I'm just gonna write like a fun pop song that I would imagine is kind of the, the quote unquote sound of St. Lucia. And that'll be really fun and refreshing because it's like, you know what the toolbox is, you know, I'm not trying to like reinvent the toolbox, but just kind of using, and that can be really just fun and refreshing and exciting to do as well, you know, So yeah, I'm not trying to shit on <laugh>, like using a formula that could be great. It can be really fun to do.
Brendan Jeannetti (13:25):
Well, I love this new kind of lean into yacht rock. I recently have get gotten into yacht rock. There's this, uh, band that they just tour around the country. They have the coolest job, I gotta get them on the show at one point. They're literally a cover band, but they tour at like huge venues. They played, uh, the Pavilion out here in Boston, which is like 4,000 capacity. And they sold it out and it's a, it's the most exciting time. But anyways, I've been really getting into yacht rock. So to see, uh, the lead single kind of land in that genre and even get some editorial placement on yacht rock playlist was, was super cool.
St. Lucia (13:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, like, um, I don't like, it's, it's hard to talk about your rock because it has such like a, on one hand it has like a negative connotation, you know, like you just think of like white nudes on a yacht, you know, <laugh> basically. Um, but like, I don't know, there's something about it, there's something about that era that, you know, when you li when you listen to like yacht players and has like Skinny Dan and it has like Duby brothers and has Michael McDonald, it has Chris Cross whatever on it. There is something so disarmingly naive on the one hand, but also so musically, um, sophisticated. So it's like you have this naivety, this total like un selfconsciousness like naivete with like the sophisticated musicality. Um, that just, I think just lends the music. This, I don't know, it just, it has this like vibrancy to it, you know? And um, maybe it's the fact that the comfort, the like, just like has this feeling of comfort as well. So I don't know, it just, it feels good to make that sometimes,
Brendan Jeannetti (15:02):
You know, I don't think I could have put that so eloquently like you did, but I actually fully understand what you're saying. Like if it was super cheesy, I probably wouldn't love it as much, but it's like the perfect amount of cheesy it, there, there is some type of like artistic beauty behind it as well. But
St. Lucia (15:17):
There's also, it's just about perspective, because I can totally understand why people might think that's cheesy, you know? And there's definitely, like, if you listen to a lot of those bands that are making quote unquote yacht rock, you know, there's definitely probably many tracks on that album that lean far to you in the cheese direction or in Stevie Dan's case far to like, I'm a musician direction, you know? But then the things that really hit that like nailed the mark are so good that they just have just enough accessibility and like sophisticated musicality to kind of just be Right.
Brendan Jeannetti (15:49):
So I wanna, I wanna pivot back to uh, Tour for a minute, just because with artists like Sophie Tucker and Joywave, it's clear that like the supporting St. Lucia to Extreme Success Pipeline, like it's alive and well <laugh>. So I'm curious, how did you come across blanks in Caroline Kingsbury? How did you know that they were right to bring out on tour with you?
St. Lucia (16:11):
Honestly, just social media. Um, you know, um, Caroline just actually reached out to me and we were chatting for a long time. She sent me her record, I already liked it. And then, you know, when we were looking for support artists, um, she said to me a few times, Oh, I'd love to like, support you. And then I basically just threw her name in the hat and everyone agreed that she should do it, like at a tour. Um, same thing with banks. Um, you know, there was also an agent connection. I'm not sure if he's also represented by William Morris, but, um, I, I'd become aware of him through social media and like, you know, obviously there's some similarities in our sound in a way. You know, like he's doing, he's doing vaguely sort of like aha ish, um, electro pop. Um, and not to undersell.
I mean, he has really great songs. Like I really, I love his songs and he's got like a great personality and stuff. Um, yeah, but that's, that's pretty much how it's, I mean, so I, I have to tell you man, for all the things I hate about social media and there's a lot of it, the best thing about it is the ability to just connect a, with your fans. Like for people to reach out directly to you and send you messages or ask you things. And, um, I try my best to respond to all messages as much as possible. Cause I just think, you know, it's just great because that's the one bit you feel like is not being ed by some algorithm. Like all this stuff we, like, you post something and then like, not all your followers see it. Like, this drives me crazy.
Like, I wish they would just go back to a, you know, um, like a chronological feed. I think that this would solve many of the world's problems actually. Um, but, but that personal messaging thing I think is amazing. Like, I think it's one of the best things ever. You can just send anyone a message and maybe they'll respond, maybe they won. But for example, like I think, um, Caroline was telling me a story she wrote to the War on drugs as well, the same thing. And she ended up supporting the war on drugs just cuz she reached out to them.
Brendan Jeannetti (17:59):
That is so cool. Yeah, I mean, I, I grew up with social media, so it, it does take me like to kind of disconnect myself to realize how much of a privilege it is to be able to talk to people instantaneously and like build an, essentially build an entire brand from, you know, like my computer and not having met 90% of the people that I work with. Yeah. Um, it is a really interesting thing that like, kind of unites the world, but at the same time you mention algorithms, you know, if we're talking about your last album 2018, and now we see, we see a few things. One, I wanna talk about how you released Two NFTs. First off, what, what do you think the value in NFTs are in the music industry and, and what made you for sure wanna, wanna release him?
St. Lucia (18:43):
Well, um, a really good friend of mine is Andre from rac. And, you know, he was one of the earliest people in the NFT world and he's been doing it. And I just thought, I just loved that he was like developing a different aspect of his career because he's always, I mean, I think we are very visually focused as well. Like we love visuals, we love, like, we just spoke about that, but he is too. And I just loved how he was able to expand that universe through using NFTs, you know? Um, I think it's just also, it's cool to have like a different, a different income stream on some level, you know? But like, honestly didn't do it for the money, I just did it because like, it just feels like a cool different way to collaborate with other people from different art forms, you know?
So you're not just collaborating with other musicians, you're collaborating. Um, and I, I honestly can't think of another way to, to do that, to sell digital art. You know, like obviously I love fine art, like paintings and stuff, but you know, digital art is just a new form and this is the best thing I've seen so far in, you know, for trading digital art. Like, I can't think of a better way, you know? So I know there's a lot of controversy surrounding like energy usage of, um, blockchain technology and all that kind of stuff, and I acknowledge that, you know, But, um, it seems like there are things in the work that should remedy that to a certain degree. Um, I don't know, you know, it's, it's, it's just interesting to me because I think all throughout history, any new technology has always been controversial.
You know, people have said it's destroying like social media, like electricity, like whatever people have said, it's the devil, it's the whatever, you know. Um, but in some, you know, it's always gonna be a bit of both those things. It's always gonna be amazing and change the world for the better, but it's also gonna like be negative in some way, you know? So you kind of just have to kind of go with it and eventually it will figure it, figure itself out and just be conscious to a degree and not just you. Yeah, I don't know. That's the way, that's what I
Brendan Jeannetti (20:37):
Think. No, I certainly agree. I think it does get a bad rep, mostly because people aren't fully aware of what they are. Um, I think when you actually understand you, you see where they can provide value and I think exactly, like, I don't think every artist needs to drop an nft, but I feel like from what I know about St Lucia, it, it makes sense with your brand and especially where you are so visually leaning. I wish I had, wish I had purchased it.
St. Lucia (21:00):
<laugh>, there will be more. We have, we we have more in the works. Um, so like, I think some really, really cool ones. Um, yeah, I just think, you know, it's, it's cool to just try new things and like, you know, I think especially when something is controversial in that way, it's important to at least try to understand it a bit more and like, don't knock it before you try it or before you understand the inner workings of what it is, you know?
Brendan Jeannetti (21:26):
Definitely. So do we have that same energy for TikTok?
St. Lucia (21:30):
Mm. I don't know man. Like, I, I struggle, I just struggle with TikTok. I struggle. I feel like TikTok is the one thing too much that I then just don't have time for anything else my day. Like, so we do like a couple TikTok posts here and there, but I just like, to me it's like I, I have to ask myself mm-hmm <affirmative>, why am I doing this? Am I doing this to just be a rat on a hamster wheel or am I doing this to make me, Because like to me, I, I keep thinking of this analogy that like, now there's like this, you know, cuz like, I feel like labels are always like, if you complaining that things aren't going as well as you want them to, whatever, it's always like, well you gotta post more on TikTok, you gotta do this. And a, I think it's lazy from a label standpoint to, to say that, you know, and just for the record, like we have a great relationship with our label.
They do say this stuff, sometimes we call them out, but also like they're, they're great on other levels. Um, but I, I just think that like, it just starts to feel like, well, okay, now you just have to go like live at the casino because you never know when you're gonna have a jackpot, when you're gonna hit the jackpot, you know? So everyone just has to live at the slot machine and keep pulling the slot machine. And the only people it's making Rich are the people who own TikTok, you know, who are advertising and like everyone else is just basically posting, posting, posting, not not getting a lot of views. And then you get a lot of views on one and then you're like, Oh, well I gotta keep posting. You know, it just, to me, it just feels like this hamster wheel. So to me, I just kind of like try to use social media. I don't let it rule my life. I try to use it just to reach fans and post things that I want to post about, but like, I try not to get too caught up in it because it just, yeah, I, I I just think it's not gonna end well.
Brendan Jeannetti (23:10):
Yeah, I certainly agree. I think if anything I have more of a personal struggle with it then I, I think, um, like my struggle isn't with its effect on the music industry, it's more like how often I feel like I need to like upkeep it or, you know, post something that I, I typically, I would never post what I post there on like Instagram, like, or like you said, on a feed in which I know my followers are going to see because I can be a little bit more authentic. I feel like TikTok kind of rewards you appealing to the masses and I just was never about that.
St. Lucia (23:39):
Yeah. And it's like, what if I make a video that like goes viral because I did what TikTok likes to see what the algorithm likes to see, and then that becomes popular, Get him under pressure to keep doing that. And then I become, not me as an artist anymore, I've just become another talker making videos that are the same as everyone else. Just so excuse my French fucking algorithm approves of my thing and shoots it out to me. But I'm just like, fuck that shit. I'm sorry.
Brendan Jeannetti (24:07):
No, I, i do you know how many times I've had to make a video about Harry Styles because I knew it would catch on. I haven't even listened to his record.
St. Lucia (24:13):
Yeah, it's, it's bullshit. It's absolute like, and again, I acknowledge there are good things about these apps. Like I do think that there is good stuff about social media, but you gotta realize this is literally the reason it's free is because it's using you and your attention is the product. That's it. The longer you stay on the app they're in, they're incentivized to make you stay on the app longer. Because the longer you stay on the app, the more money they make.
Brendan Jeannetti (24:37):
That's very Black mirror. Que for sure <laugh>, um, bring it back to you. Utopia. Uh, I never like to pick favorites, truly I don't, but take me away is, it's certainly been on repeat since it's dropped.
St. Lucia (24:50):
Oh, I appreciate it,
Brendan Jeannetti (24:51):
Man. I heard a funny story or a quote from you that it kind of was like your inside out moment where there was you was just kind of stuck in your head. Can you elaborate on that? Cause I think that's hilarious.
St. Lucia (25:03):
<laugh>. Yeah, so, um, I, if you remember like in Inside Out there's this bit where there are these guys that work in the deep memory banks that keep setting this one bowl of like triple gum, whatever, up to the ba and then projects and like Riley just like starts singing it at random parts of the day. So basically what happens to me sometimes, you know, like when I'm, most of the time I'm writing a song, it's just literally an idea like what will just appear in my head. And sometimes it's really fully formed songs. Sometimes it's just a melody, you know, whatever. Um, so, uh, Take Me Away was a song I wrote just coming off of a tour for Hyper Peron, um, was an idea. And I, um, demoed it, had the demo, and then just after the first day that I worked on it, it just kind of went into the back burner was there, and I had other things to do and I was working on other songs. But then when I was finishing up the end of the second half of Utopia, somehow that song just kept coming back into my head. Like it just like would randomly be there. And I noticed each time it came back I had more ideas for it and stuff, and that just kind of told me that I need to try and finish the song. And that's, yeah, that's how it came back.
Brendan Jeannetti (26:09):
Wow. Is that something that typically happens or is this kind of a unique thing for you
St. Lucia (26:14):
That happens all the time? This is just how it is for me. Like, um, I feel like for years I've been doing this and I've learned to just open the channels and just let things come in. And there are times when I'm too busy and nothing comes, you know, But often it happens when I'm not working on music actively. Like if I'm going for a run or hiking or swimming or just with the kids on the playground and my attention, like, I don't ha I'm not thinking in my head, my head, my mind's open. I'm almost in like a slight meditative state and my, my tension is somewhere else. Like, somehow like songs will just sneak in and I'll just like catch myself like singing something, um, in the back of my mind.
Brendan Jeannetti (26:52):
Wow. I, yeah, I feel like I have the, that mint gum in my mind at all times, but everything's my mint gum and I think it might just be
St. Lucia (27:01):
You're be, be, you may maybe you just need to harness that, you
Brendan Jeannetti (27:05):
Know? Yeah. Honestly, I, well, especially with this broken foot, the amount of work I have gotten done in this month is insane. I have literally taught myself, I'm like, built a website, HTML seo, I'm like, wow, I,
St. Lucia (27:19):
Oh my God,
Brendan Jeannetti (27:20):
I could do all of this. It's, uh, when you put your mind to good use,
St. Lucia (27:23):
It's amazing how distracting walking can be.
Brendan Jeannetti (27:25):
Yeah, Right. <laugh>, Oh, well I could tell just from speaking with you now, how much passion is going through this album, this tour. I'm super stoked to see you. October 7th, Paradise Rock Club Boston with my boot on. Um, before you go, of course music You're Missing is all about music discovery. So I'm curious, what, what have you been listening to lately and who should I check out?
St. Lucia (27:48):
Um, recently, I mean, um, I always sing the praises of this band parcels from Australia. Um, I really, really like Parcels. They're great, amazing live band, just great players, great songs like in the classic mold. Yeah, it's kind of, they're sort of like chic meets. Um, I mean I, it it's kind of like what they're doing is like, what do punk did on random access memories, but like better. Whoa, okay. You know, and it sounds very similar in, in a lot of ways. Um, I really like the, um, soccer, the new soccer mommy record that was really, it's just like a really, like, I love records that are really good, have great songwriting, but then have the extra additional element of just like a amazing sonic like production. And, uh, that record was produced I think by Ono's point. Never. Um, you know, he, and he's been producing a lot of the weekends new stuff.
Um, but it's very much like, it feels like kind of like a modern cocktail twins record a little bit, you know, um, with kind of nineties songwriting and it's just dreamy and magical and just beautifully produced. The sounds are amazing. The mix is great. Um, there's this girl from the UK called Nilu, um, and I l u with like an umla with the two dots for Janya. She also has a great like guitar, like pop guitar, like pop slash alternative, almost like grunge record, um, with tinges of like Radiohead, uh, super, super cool record. Um, and then, I'm trying to think of who else. Those are probably the main three new artists I've been listening to a lot. I mean, I'm sure there's like a lot more, but I, I forget in this moment.
Brendan Jeannetti (29:26):
Absolutely. Noted. You described them til graciously. I can't, I can't wait to check them out.
St. Lucia (29:30):
Yeah. Very great.
Brendan Jeannetti (29:32):
Well it's been a pleasure chatting with you. Thank you for taking the time. I appreciate it. I wish you the best of luck on your tour and I know it's, it's gonna be amazing and I'll see you in Boston.
St. Lucia (29:40):
Appreciate it, Brendan.
Led by husband-and-wife duo South Africa-born Jean-Philip Grobler and Germany-born Patti Beranek, St. Lucia retreat from a fractured world on fire and into the glow of a rapturous synth-spiked electro-pop catharsis—like a dance party at the edge of existence. Now signed to Nettwerk Records, the group beams out a light of their own and shines brighter than ever. “In a way, this is my personal rebellion against the darkness of the world,” states Jean-Philip. “It’s easy to feel depressed these days, so I’m trying to bring something joyous to the world. I was sick of seeing shit on the Internet, and I just wanted to feel good. That’s what being human is about. We have to feel alive, despite whatever the fuck is going on.”
St. Lucia has always stirred these kinds of emotions. It started with When The Night, which boasted fan favorites like “Elevate,” “All Eyes On You,” and “Closer Than This,” entered the Billboard Top 200 and hit #6 on Billboard’s Heatseekers Album chart. Its follow-up Matter, yielded the hit “Dancing On Glass,” while the band collaborated with artists ranging from Jack Antonoff to RAC. Two years later, Hyperion represented a creative and critical high watermark with praise from Billboard, who hailed the album as “buoyant,” and PopMatters who raved, “it feels revelatory.”
“When you listen to this, I hope you feel inspired and like life is worth living,” Jean leaves off. Patti adds, “it unleashes things, and I think we did a good job capturing that.”
- St. Lucia (Spotify)
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